Showing posts with label Bad Selling. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bad Selling. Show all posts

Wednesday, 2 October 2013

So How Young is Too Young?!

Some people just don't seem to think horses need any time to grow up at all. Here we have a baby horse- currently aged 15 months, that's a yearling plus 3 months- hard at it in the shafts. Dragon Driving again of course.

Future stallion potential they say- I bet. He probably won't be much good for anything else in a few years time, the state those overworked developing joints will be in. He even looks like a little baby still poor soul. It boggles my mind that this happens so much and no one seems to see the problem with it!



Tuesday, 11 June 2013

Advert of the Day

Here we have for sale on equine now- a blob.


This frankly terrible picture accompanies a horse for sale ad promoting a stallion for stud 'serves' or sale. 

We don't know:
-What height
- How old
- If he has ever been ridden or even sat on!
- What he looks like to be honest, other than that he appears to have four white legs

We do know:
- a breeding would cost 40-80 dollars
- He's a black and white paint
- He loves other horses. 

It's hard to tell what would possibly recommend this horse as a father. Or as someone's new horse for that matter. Please people, put some thought into an advert. Think about what you're trying to say and what your horse's strong points are. And if he doesn't have many, give him some. Get some work into him! 


Saturday, 1 June 2013

Picture AND Video Fail

Rarely does an advert get it totally wrong in both selling mediums, but here we have a prime exhibit. The ad is for a young stallion named Smirnoff Ice- an alcopop for those not familiar with it- and at first glance it appears that the seller has over indulged in said beverage.


Yes the advert does look like a jigsaw, and yes, that's right, none of the shots shows the pony in full! In fact here's a close up of the 'best' one:


But it's ok, because there's a video- in fact there are three! So we can just check those out. 


Oh well, maybe the others are better:



Oh dear. Nope, all about 10 seconds of a majorly geed up pony sort of trotting towards people who don't seem to be able to keep the camera straight!

I sincerely hope that these are just make do efforts and they are going to try again as I am not sure what you can tell from this... he might have a nice flashy trot, but whether it would be as flashy if he wasn't practically trying to tank off with his rider I can't say! 


Time to have another go I suggest, maybe filming from further away? Be nice to see the whole horse clearly.

Friday, 5 April 2013

Advert of the Day

Where to start, where to start...


*sniffles* But, but Black Beauty was a friendly horsey!!

Ok, so first of all and most negatively to the advert at first glance this horse looks seriously p***ed as all hell. See close up:


He may be hungry as he looks pretty ribby, or maybe he's just objecting to that godawful piece of thin metal in his mouth. Either way his expression says get the **** away from me. Not the most inviting shot for a sales pitch!

Secondly do you think those front hooves have been deliberately cut out of shot? Because from the knees down they are not good looking legs and I am wondering if the horse is actually sound.

Overall total picture fail. But we go on...

Thirdly 'Quarter Horse, hard to find'. ????. Do you mean he goes to hide in his field? Because I can think of barely any regions in the USA where the Quarter Horse is a rare breed. It's like the UK equivalent of black and white hairy cobs- dime a dozen and everywhere you look.

Finally; 'Horse Starts to Dance', you mean all the time? Your average rider would kind of like a horse that keeps still on occasion please!

Today's short but not sweet ad of the day is brought to you courtesy of the good folks over at Horseforums.com; thanks guys your thread on dumbest ads is a goldmine!

Sunday, 31 March 2013

Epic Fail

If you took out all the accurate/responsible/intelligent stuff in this advert, you wouldn't have much of it left. 

Cheapest Saddlebred..... - $250

Hi, just got this horse not long ago (3months). Its a Saddlebred/Walker stud. He is too small for my boyfriend and im not into riding horses. From what I know he is a pretty good horse. No kick, bite or buck...just nred love and we having to much going on. Was purchased for $500 from a very good friend in Houston. The only problem the horse is too short. He is about 14.5 hh, we are willing to take $250 obo. Yes $250 obo for a stud thats not bad, and plus you will make your money back breeding. He has never bred before and no bad habits. Need gone by this weekend because we leaving to go out of town.Kids have ridden him,with no problem, he is more suitable for kids, women or small adults.
Has Pusher's walker in his bloodline. Not registered. Can email pics.or text 469~684~8992



1- If you're flogging a horse with the biggest positive being that it's cheap, the poor thing probably hasn't got a lot to offer. Annd that's not really accurate advertising either- read on to discover the horse is actually a saddlebred X Walker. 

2- I really hope that someone is holding that rope (so could drop it or do something about entanglement) and it's not tied to something (which the low rope makes me wonder) since he's now stepped over it and could end up giving himself a bit of a jerk/fright/serious injury. 

3- Hi, just got this horse not long ago (3months).

You've had him all of 3 months? Wouldn't it have been easier just to think harder about getting a horse at all/go evaluate the horse properly before you bought him?

4- Its a Saddlebred/Walker stud.

He's a stud. Of course he is. Cos that price, + nuts, is going to make finding a lovely new home even easier.

5- He is too small for my boyfriend and im not into riding horses. 

Yes. Yes he is. 



(Obviously I am assuming this is the BF in the picture!). 

Here's the thing. I know some very large riders who are very skilled. They ride light. This is because they know how to balance themselves to cause least convenience to the horse. If this guy was at least riding in good balance I wouldn't be cringing as much as I am. But look at the weight hanging over to the left here! The horse will find this difficult to manage. 

There are ways to assess how much weight a horse can safely carry. One of these is bone- basically the circumference of the foreleg, just below the knee. A horse with good solid thick legs at this point is generally believed to be able to carry more weight than one with a narrow leg here- check pictures of welsh cobs as opposed to thoroughbreds to see this. I wouldn't class this horse as a weight carrier from the shot above! 

Weight carrying capacity at any one time is also influenced by other things, including what you are doing with the horse- so yes, at least here they are just walking, in this shot anyway- and it's age. You wouldn't want to charge in piling excess weight on a youngster who is still getting used to just carrying a rider for example. 

On that note I am a bit concerned that this horse could be a youngster- he's either a growing colt or a very badly put together adult! His age isn't mentioned anywhere. This heavyweight riding could be doing some damage to an immature skeleton if he is the kind of age I think he may be. 

Here's the kicker. I know horses grow when they are young but only slowly! Didn't these people even go look at this horse before he came home? Why did it take 3 months to decide he was too small, did they just have him thrown in the field and only notice his size when they got close enough to catch him? 

6- From what I know he is a pretty good horse. No kick, bite or buck...

This no bite, kick, or buck seems to be the craigslist mantra for 'good horse'. I know a lot of very good horses which do occasionally buck (often when out and excited!), sometimes kick and sometimes bite (though mainly other horses!) and similarly I know some god awful horses that never do any of the above (you'd need to light a rocket behind a lot of them to get any impulsion at all, but that's another story). It'd be good to hear more about what the horse can do rather than what he doesn't do, like ride out on trails, jump a little fence, stuff like that, but nothing like that here. Or in a lot of ads where 'No kick bite buck rear etc' appears as the big selling point to be honest.  

7- just nred love and we having to much going on. 

They had too much on to even check the poor beggar was the right size in the first place so that doesn't surprise me. 

8- The only problem the horse is too short. 

Annnd again, he could have been measured before you brought him home surely? 

He is about 14.5 hh.

No he's not!! 

9- we are willing to take $250 obo. Yes $250 obo for a stud thats not bad, and plus you will make your money back breeding. 

UUUURRGH!! Brain bleach please. Does anyone see anything about this fluffy, leggy, flat backed little guy that begs to be reproduced? Seller- you are trying to offload this horse for $250- UK peeps that's about £165 at today's currency conversion rates - it probably cost more to keep the mare adequately fed and vet checked in the pregnancy that produced him than that! If you don't want a horse like this, why will enough other people anywhere to make breeding him such a good idea?! Seriously, what on earth makes you think Shorty's sperm is in demand anywhere in the entire FREAKING country? 

He has never bred before... 

Thank whatever deity oversees us that this is the case. Please someone go get him just to remove his lovespuds before he meets miss right (or miss you'll do) and gets her in the family way. 

10- Need gone by this weekend because we leaving to go out of town. 

You know what- this is one thing that irritates the heck out of me and I keep seeing on CL especially. Sellers- cos this isn't the only one by any means- at the time you place an advert you are responsible for that horse's whole future. If you don't take adequate time and care over finding someone who wants him for the right reasons, has the facilities to keep him and knows how to look after him, you're going to end up handing the leadrope to that nice guy Gus who showed up with a trailer, paid cash and has a farm out west somewhere. Gus being the smiley kill buyer who'll be only too happy to take the horse off your hands for an even more knock down price and ship him right off to become mince. In this case the horse's main fault appears to be that the current owner bought something too small. He doesn't deserve to be put at risk for that. Man up, put your damn weekend trip back if it's that disruptive and spend some time protecting the life of the animal you brought into yours. He deserves that much. Rant over.  

11- Has Pusher's walker in his bloodline. 

Somewhere. 

Not registered. 

Of course. 

Good luck Shorty! I think you may need it.



Thursday, 21 March 2013

Advert of the Day

Deep breath....









annnnnd GO!



I have a black and white mustang named bandit I'm selling him because I don't have time to ride him or spend with him n it's not fair to the Little guy he's grate horse I had him since he was 8 n he was not broke n he is 12 now I broke him but haven't done to much with him he I have put him on cows and he loves them with some training he could be a really nice cutting horse he learns quit n picks up on hat u r doing he's small but real stocky he is very forward will do anything u ask of him jump run go around a barrel though bushes corn fields he love to swim unsay let's swim give his head he he will run n just about jump in the creek to the deepest spot lol he dose get nerves around people he dose not know but when he gets to know you and trust you he will have a strong bond with you for the longest time my ferrie couldn't touch him unless I was there n now he's good with him I had a girl lease him until she went back to school and just loved him you can ride him a hack a more a bit or haulter he won't eat grass when u r on his back or holding him on a lead unless he knows you say it's ok stands to mont picks up all 4 feet to pick good on cross ties loads very well he just needs some basic work but u can trial ride him alone or with other horses will not kick or bite at a horse or person if u would like to come see bandit my name is Lauren just call or text 267 753 5079 or email



Yep, we have apparently never heard of a full stop!

Who wouldn't want a horse like this he's 'grate', learns 'quit' and stands still to 'mont'. Presumably she has someone to trim and do her horse's feet (a FARRIER) and not a large boat that likes to rub alongside horses (Ferry/Ferrie?!!). 


BTW he looks brown and white to me- anyone else?!





Still a cute little fella who would be a good friend for a kid somewhere- visit the link here if you're interested. 

The breathless wording and fact that the horse is on a funny angle in the  photo just makes it feel like the seller rushed this ad BIG TIME. 

I don't think horse selling ads really need the grammar police coming down on them hard all the time, but your ad should at least be readable enough to make sense!! People are busy and trying to decipher vague or confusing words and sentences is hard work when you've got several ads at once to work through- unless your horse is something extraordinary a lot of them might give up! 

 If you're not sure and are even half aware that the written word isn't your strongest medium, why wouldn't you get someone to read it over for you before you post it- even spell check can get you halfway there!

Thanks Craigslist Philadelphia for this one! 

Wednesday, 13 March 2013

Could You Care Less?

This is a sad little advert. Mainly because of this:


Yes we have here a whole herd of horses living on what appears to be a rubbish dump! One of the most terrifying items for me is that pallet. Just how easily could a horse get a leg stuck in that. It makes me sick just thinking about it.

It boggles belief that people don't consider how BAD this looks! I mean, you're showing the world just how poor your levels of animal care are. I can only pray that mare doesn't always wear that headcollar as she could oh so easily end up attached to one of those bits of junk and hurt herself badly.

Someone please go get poor Daisy (whose height is totally unknown) before she loses a limb. Here are the rest of the ad details for would be saviors:




Wednesday, 13 February 2013

It's a What Now?

Some more light relief for today, courtesy of an excellent site I found, now listed in my faves, called Horse Trader Tricks. Their 'for fun' page is just one of many excellent items they have to offer, I heartily recommend a visit!

I am a little surprised that 'Fellabella' doesn't make an appearance in this list, but please enjoy:



Creative Breed & Color Spellings

APPALOSO /Quarter pregant - $500-I have a four year old appaloso quarter for sale she is pregant she is not broke to ride .I have saddle her up and i have sit on her. She was bred with a liver and white paint .

APOOLOSSA - $8500

LEOPARD SPOTTED APPOOSA HORSE 5YRS. TRICK HORSE ANY ONE CAN RIDE

blue rhone apalusa - $600

chetlyn pony - $250 young chetklyn pony, kid friendly


12 yr old Carmello Reg. Fox Trotter - $1000-This guy is a 12 yr old. He stands 15.1 hands tall. He is a registered Missouri Fox Trotter, carmello in color and built like a quarter horse.

Horse for Sale-He is 14.2 hands a good trail horse. He is a carmelloh. very good additude. Sweet and loving. age 6 years old.

AQHA quarter horse beautiful!! CRAMELLO!

Kid broke, gentle gelding - $700
15 hand, creamellow Quarter Horse gelding. Very gentle. Great on the trails and in the round pen. Very nice slow, easy canter. No vices/bad habits. He rides on a loose rein with a natural low head set. Eight years old. Current coggins and worming. Please call for an appointment to ride this gentle gelding. Thanks.

Blue Rome horse - $275-i have a 10 year old blue Rome horse that is green broke..you can saddle her up and everything and ride her but she doesn't know a lot of stuff but she know some...she is a pretty horse but her lip hangs down because she got it caught on a barb wire fence...if any questions or pictures please txt dont call..

Choclate palamino - $1800-very gental gelding, no bad habits, anybody can ride, very muscular and very beautiful, has a flaken maine and tail and is choclate colored

For Sale- 6 year old leopard print mare broke,sweet,very pretty,1000.00 or 1200.00 with tack,call or text,can send photo

Thero-bread chestnut horse - $100-im getting rid of her because we simply cannot afford her, shes got brand new front shoes on her, theres nothing wrong with her if u have any questions contact me.

8 year old reg sorrow mare - $800

Young 2 year old Chest Nut - $350-I'm selling a 2 year old chest nut gelding that I have started and is green broke. He stands at 13.5. Get along with the other horses great. He will make great 4-H horse for a child. $350 obo



5year old Geurla Gelding - $650

Thourebreed mare - $400

11 yo Medicine Hat Paint - $300- I am an 11 year old Tabiano-Overian Paint gelding. I have a medicine hat, bald face and blue eys. I am VERY green and need a lot of work. I stand well for the ferrier. I am skidish.

Horses for Sale-5 year old Morgan/Paint Gelding Blue eyes. Dark Sorrel 15.5 hands Rides/Gated $600 5 Year Old Creamilo Gelding light gray eyes Green Broke Ground Gentle Rides. $500

I have 2 horses for sale a 3 year old gelding foxtrotter that is a doppler grey and has bloodlines to zan bar grey this horse is green broke just needs some saddle time and is naturally gated with 30 days perfessional training. The other is a solid black quester horse colt 17 month holter broke and leads other then that just been handled no holes in either horses and have no bad habits since they have not been tought any.

Horse for Sale-This gelding was born in 2010. He is half Pacifino and half Quarter Horse and may be gaited.

Gurlla
- $500-4 year old gurlla gelding grade QH stands 14'1 hands tall easy to catch and load stands to be saddle and stands when you get on him no buck, kick, or bit just an easy going horse asking

Monday, 14 January 2013

Bridleless= Big Bucks! Apparently...

Here's a little cutie for you.



ADVERT CONTENT:

Additional Comments:Ms April Jack AKA April is a great mare! You can do ANYTHING on her, EVEN RUN a barrel pattern bridleless!! She'll side pass, use FULL leg pressure, spin, flying lead changes, cross anything, go anywhere, rope anything, and can flat fly! Ive owned her since she was a 2 year old and have taught her everything she knows. This horse has honestly been everywhere. Ive rode her into town to sonic before I got my drivers license to get food (roughly 10 miles one way), Ive rode her up and down every road in my town, shes been in countless homecoming and christmas parades. one year being the grinch. always ridden to the parade never hauled there. crosses railroad tracks like its nothing. been hooked up to a cart with no prior training for it and absolutely did nothing, ive jumped her over barrels with no schooling, nothing bothers her at all. anything you think a 9-17 year old kid would put a horse through shes prolly been there! She's done an extreme cowboy race and won it with the fastest time completing all the obstacles! She runs barrels and poles. I prefer to run poles off her (she likes them better) and shes awesome, very quick! 21-22s are her times, she also runs barrels like a dream, 100% automatic! just sit there and soak up the money. NEVER has wide barrels! have even run her bridleless countless of times! have all the videos to prove it! She's ran in mud, rain, everything she has the BEST footing ever! if its ever been muddy ive run her whippin and kicking the whole way and never had her slip, she runs barefoot too never had shoes! Runs to either barrel first just whatever she's feeling that day is the barrel we choose! shes been worked on cattle, breakaway roped off her, tied some goats off her, nothing bothers her what so ever, loads and hauls like a dream, stalls at night, stands tied all day, you can clip, bathe, ect ect with her and she'll sit there. shes 100% bombproof. I can keep going on about all the places shes been and what all she does but thatd take a lifetime. I have put my heart and soul into this mare to get her where she is! Although, She has ONE issue that if you know how to handle it its no big deal. Its in the alley way. I'd prefer her to go somewhere that the work is not in the arena! Like ranch work.
call and lets talk (918)289-5689 If I dont answer im either riding or working so leave a voicemail or text me and i will get back to you asap!

She's sweet, but sweet for $25,000?!!


Yes $25,000 (by current currency conversions that's about £15,500 here in the UK!)!!! And yes, it's serious, and the ad's been there for AGES so I am sure that if it was an error the owner would have noticed by now and changed it.

As a quick aside here are some other areas in the write up that I am a little concerned with...

been hooked up to a cart with no prior training for it and absolutely did nothing

That means nothing either, certainly doesn't mean you could actually drive her. Also, attaching a horse to something that it might decide to be scared of at any second and then not be able to get away from without building up to that point with proper training is plain stupid. Here's how quickly that can go from bad to total carnage:




if its ever been muddy ive run her whippin and kicking the whole way and never had her slip...


Whoopee! You can thrash the heck out of your horse on bad footing and she won't fall over, that's WONDERFUL!

And finally...

I have put my heart and soul into this mare to get her where she is! Although, She has ONE issue that if you know how to handle it its no big deal. Its in the alley way. I'd prefer her to go somewhere that the work is not in the arena! Like ranch work.

This horse might be fine to be ridden bridleless but apparently throws a fit of some sort in the alleyway?!

Do you know many ranchers who are even able to pay 25000 dollars for a horse?!

Crikey do you know many PEOPLE?!

If I were going to buy a horse for that much it had better be as close as perfect as you can possibly get! Little issues- no thanks. Being rideable bridleless is a nice little trick, but that's all it is, and there isn't much market  for it where the big money is- in the show ring.

Here's the biggest problem this seller has- sorted by price her little bay mare shows up right alongside the following horses- so as a potential buyer, for your $25,000 you can have instead:

This imported Perlino stallion, bred to perform, eligible for inspection for full stallion approval, in pro training for dressage and show jumping...


This cute training level packer...


This imported Shagya stallion, inspected and approved.


This adorable Buckskin Azteca mare, with show record and in foal to an Andalusian stallion for 2013.


This sweet Buckskin Canadian Warmblood mare jumping to 3'3-3'6.


I'm not saying that they are all correctly priced by contrast, but what I am saying is that for that amount of money, I'd go for any of them over the bay mare. Either for total lack of hangups or for future potential. And that's on ONE WEBSITE!

Truthfully, I think the seller is living in a dreamworld. Maybe she's young and inexperienced, but her pricing on many of her horses is as way off as you can get. I went to her seller page and found that she also wanted $10,000 for this blemished quarter horse mare. Um, I think you might struggle there. Again she pops up alongside show winning animals, including fully trained and finished cutting and reining horses.


So on a serious point, don't know what to price your horse? Look around and see what else buyers are able to get for their money. Several sale websites allow you to order by price. Price your horse in your head, go to that price bracket, and check out those horses. Does yours compare? Great, that's your price. But if he'll be up against horses that have no issues when he does, or have fantastic show records when he doesn't, and so on, be a little more realistic. Lower your price, or you'll be paying out much more to keep him right where he is for the foreseeable future.